tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5135517998184661387.post6581857801676205827..comments2024-01-22T22:49:43.054-08:00Comments on Where the sea pours out: End of the worldUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5135517998184661387.post-57576075407625809222014-01-15T09:13:34.269-08:002014-01-15T09:13:34.269-08:00Well there's the thing, if mothballed there...Well there's the thing, if mothballed there's always a possibility that pdfs would be made available, especially as they did that for Necromunda, Mordheim, etc. Here's hoping... although I wouldn't hold my breath.<br /><br />No, I've not given God of Battles a go, although I did buy some of the sea elf models. I will have to try it soon, because I have heard some good things. However, from what people tell me it does seem to be directed towards relatively swift battles, and I do think there's something to be said for "slow gaming" over streamlining (that will be the topic of a future post).robotforadayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05302954722308521390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5135517998184661387.post-48159220979059260162014-01-15T09:09:59.807-08:002014-01-15T09:09:59.807-08:00I think one area in which the loss of GW, or just ...I think one area in which the loss of GW, or just GW's support of Warhammer, would be a blow is in terms of recruitment. It was through the shops that I got into it, and without that I wouldn't have stuck with it as a kid, and I wouldn't be here. While we veterans are fine, where's the next generation going to join in 'the hobby'?<br /><br />That said, I think GW's recruitment strategy right now borders on the unethical, given that it relies on pester-power, and there doesn't seem to be a well developed sense of "will the child who gets this now still be using it in a couple of months time?"... so it could be doing harm as wellrobotforadayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05302954722308521390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5135517998184661387.post-88226447413499158412014-01-15T09:06:27.119-08:002014-01-15T09:06:27.119-08:00Exactly; however, although I put a positive spin o...Exactly; however, although I put a positive spin on it here, if I was being more pessimistic I could suggest that if you simply pull the plug in terms of ready made background, people are more likely to give up rather than make up their own stuff. I was struck by Orlygg's interview with Gary Chalk. Chalk says that one of the motivations for the ill-fated Fantasy Warlord project was that <i>"the background [of Warhammer Fantasy Battle] was getting so detailed that there was very little room for the gamer to be inventive"</i>. What he goes on to say is a little sobering: <i>"I actually enjoy making up scenarios, war-engines, uniforms and so on that bolt on to the rules for my own games. I now believe that I may be alone in this and this could be one reason why Fantasy Warlord failed. People want to belong to a group where they are one of the boys. They’re one of the people who play Warhammer or Malifaux or whatever, and ultimately it is this community which is as important as the game. They like the in-jokes about the third edition or getting the badges on their orcs to look just like the ones in the magazine. I’m afraid to say, that I don’t really give a damn about this stuff and I can make up my own badges."</i><br /><br />The implication seems to be that a lot of people WANT to copy the 'in house' background and style to be part of a community; and if you offer them the opportunity to be creative and do it themselves, that's a turn off.<br /><br />Shame if that's true, really. But it's the flipside to the optimism I display in this post.robotforadayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05302954722308521390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5135517998184661387.post-71803073813664630192014-01-15T02:51:56.580-08:002014-01-15T02:51:56.580-08:00I think WFB is, at least, very nearly dead. And I&...I think WFB is, at least, very nearly dead. And I'm not sure that it is a bad thing. But you do want new players to join in the fun, so, unless someone is going to prise a version of the 3rd edition ruleset from GW's iron claws (who didn't even allow Simon Burley to reclaim Golden Heroes from mouldering in their IP hoard), it would be good to have an in-print (even if just in pdf) ruleset available. <br /><br />Has anyone given God of Battles a real go yet?Andy Bartletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683770320671028815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5135517998184661387.post-83696677586128737462014-01-15T02:29:52.658-08:002014-01-15T02:29:52.658-08:00Love this article, a great way to expand on the is...Love this article, a great way to expand on the issue. I've been told by defensive 'hobbyists' for some time that our pastime would be nowhere without GW's patronage, at last the message is getting out that they do a lot of harm too! Warlord Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06477146670213381976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5135517998184661387.post-77156385618828209222014-01-14T22:19:19.531-08:002014-01-14T22:19:19.531-08:00A great addition to the debate, well done. Weird s...A great addition to the debate, well done. Weird seeing my self in quotes! I agree that the WH world has become a limit for a lot of players imagination and the same thing has happened to 40K which is is hugely ironic. I think this goes along with the general death in imagination that can be seen amongst kids. Why think of something cool for yourself when somebody else has already done the hard work for you?Whiskey Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15956327711660800903noreply@blogger.com